Saturday, March 16, 2019

Let St. George vote their preference


Phil Beaver seeks to collaborate on the-objective-truth, which can only be discovered. The comment box below invites readers to write.

"Civic" refers to citizens who collaborate for individual happiness with civic integrity more than for the city, state, nation, or society.

Consider writing a personal paraphrase of the preamble, which offers fellow citizens mutual equality:  For discussion, I convert the preamble’s predicate phrases to nouns and paraphrase it for my proposal as follows: “We the civic people of the united states in order to develop individual discipline, civic integrity, justice, defense, and prosperity so as to perpetually preserve liberty, maintain statutory law for the USA.”

I want to collaborate with the other citizens on this paraphrase and theirs. I would preserve the original, 1787, text, unless it is amended by the people.

It seems no one has challenged whether or not the preamble is a legal statement. The fact that it changed this independent country from a confederation of states to a union of states deliberately managed by disciplined fellow citizens convinces me the preamble is legal. Equity in opportunity and outcome is shared by the people who collaborate for human justice.

Every citizen has equal opportunity to either trust-in and collaborate-on the goals stated in the preamble or be dissident to the agreement. I think 2/3 of citizens try somewhat to use the preamble but many do not articulate commitment to the goals. However, it seems less than 2/3 understand that “posterity” implies grandchildren. “Freedom of religion,” which fellow citizens have no means to discipline, oppresses freedom to develop integrity.



Selected theme from this week

In 2013, I felt the U.S. preamble’s propositions could be used to improve Baton Rouge civic reliability (integrity) so as to preserve its wholeness (integrity) rather than division by St. George City. I held library meetings to promote use of the U.S. preamble in individual daily life.

However, six years later, it seems to me that Baton Rouge neither approves nor encourages responsible liberty, the intention of the U.S. preamble. We the People of the United States, the subject of the U.S. preamble, takes responsibility for five collaborative provisions---Union, Justice, Tranquility, defense and Welfare---so as to secure human liberty.

The Baton Rouge mayor expects liberty on church coalition and dialogues on racism rather than individual responsibility.

In other words, majority voters in Baton Rouge do not trust-in and commit-to the opportunity for human equity in the U.S. preamble’s proposition. If citizens of St. George perceive they can encourage responsible liberty better on their own, let them vote to separate and improve their responsible liberty. The can always consolidate if the irresponsible people of Baton Rouge reform. Either way, the responsible people of Baton Rouge will continue to approve and encourage human liberty.

News

A forum I tried to resign from, because I adamantly oppose The Advocate personnel’s work for socialism and against responsible liberty (https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/article_8ededf94-41e7-11e9-9f46-5ff1adcacede.html)



Richard Voivedich Perhaps the trickster you are addressing removed the post. Regardless, the real Phil Beaver in Baton Rouge is depicted with MWWW---my wonderful, witty wife.




When the trickster tries to copy and paste one of my pics, FB deletes the fake account. Otherwise, neither The Advocate nor Facebook nor BRPD offer relief from what I consider a crime---misrepresenting my views using a fake account. But the First Amendment does not recognize my opinion about the crime. I advocate for revising the First Amendment so as to protect responsible liberty instead of “free speech” and to encourage both individual and corporate pursuit of integrity rather than religion. The First Amendment represents colonial British oppression.




As for your opinion, I could not agree with you more. I want the best for Baton Rouge and don't know the-objective-truth: If my neighbors to the SE think forming their own city is best, I support them and will continue to develop responsible liberty in my location.




In 2013, when I first learned of the St. George proposal, I contacted many politicians and local leaders saying that sincere consideration of the proposition in the U.S. preamble could save Baton Rouge civic integrity (both as wholeness and as understanding). One of my points was that if citizens of South Carolina in 1860 had marched on their state legislature with the message “Not on my watch will you secede from my country” the Civil War might not have happened.




With not one response, on June 21, 2014, I started public library meetings (thank you Steve Crump, Hugh Finklea, and my wonderful family) to promote the practice of the U.S. preamble’s proposition.




(Back to 1860, I now think if the 1860 people had practiced the U.S. preamble, Abraham Lincoln might have done the right thing: Emancipate the slaves on civic integrity that rebukes an erroneous religious belief. See the conclusion of the 1860 Declaration of Secession. I wrote to local politicians to affix on monuments plaques about Bible interpretation as the source of "erroneous religious belief" but do not feel like wasting my time on Richmond, VA.)




These five years later, with collaboration by over seventy fellow citizens attending nearly twenty library meetings plus meetings at LSU and elsewhere, I attest that the U.S. preamble proposes responsible liberty. I support that point with grammar diagrams in speeches I currently conduct. In short, a civic people of the USA either coerce or force five provisions---Union, Justice, Tranquility, defense and Welfare---and encourage citizens to responsibly practice human liberty. In other words, responsible citizens accept the liberty they have. The U.S. preamble states that liberty is not in the catalogue of enforceable practices: Only the individual can practice liberty, so government's only option is to coerce or force the five provisions and urge responsible liberty as opposed to infidelity to self. In other words, responsible liberty requires self-discipline, the U.S. premble's proposition.




The U.S. preamble’s civic and civil proposition was legally established on June 21, 1788 when nine states ratified the 1787 Constitution for the USA. A significant portion of leaders, perhaps 1/3 opposed the U.S. preamble’s requirement that individual citizens self-discipline for liberty. On that concern, the first Congress re-instated the colonial-British tradition of church-state partnership. The twelve or so generations since then have left it to us to separate church from state so that churches that support responsible civic liberty may flourish for the spiritual hopes and comforts of their believers.




This reform can occur in a surprisingly short time, and I offer a series of discussions titled “An Achievable Better Future.” There are two key actions: fellow citizens practice the U.S. preamble’s proposition and use the-objective-truth to discover justice rather than conflict for dominant opinion.

I appreciate Fred Bear motivating me to write this.


Phil Beaver Mr. Beaver-As my daddy used to say "We shall see what we shall see"

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To Charles Mayeux: I hope you know there's a bogus Phil Beaver in these parts. My FB id is marked by MWWW, my wondeful witty wife, and if someone copies the pic, I'll go to a different pic in my files while I report them to FB again.

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To Charles Mayeux again:  I learned that the perhaps female entity claiming "Phil Beaver" has the FB address https://www. facebook.com/marsha.marshal.129, which is not surprising to me. This is the entity I have reported to The Advocate, Facebook, and BRPD, with no relief from its irresponsible freedom of expression. Irresponsible liberty begs constraint.

This brings to mind promoting the U.S. preamble. The proposition that We the People of the United States coerces/forces five provisions---union, justice, tranquility, defense, and welfare--- "to secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity" is in some fellow citizens' genes and memes and not in others. For some fellow citizens, human liberty is a curse because of the responsibilities involved: Some people erroneously want another being to take their responsibility.

Many people in the St. George area tend to take reasonability for liberty. Some perceive that many people in Baton Rouge expect and demand that government or god provide union, justice, tranquility, defense, and welfare. Mayor Broome has had ample time to reform from her platform: church and dialogues on racism. Governor Edwards could not reform if he wanted to. Together Baton Rouge, a gods collective, takes no responsibility for its passion. Like churches, AMO pays no civic bills.

Since Pericles, 2,500 years ago, it is well known that people can collaborate for equity under a civic, civil, and legal agreement, and in the USA, fellow citizens may join We the People of the United States according to the U.S. preamble. It is an agreement offered to today’s fellow citizens for themselves and their posterity rather than for dead citizens, who can no longer collaborate for civic integrity. The U.S. preamble expresses responsible people’s civic, civil, and legal power.

I think a better future is achievable right away but promoting the U.S. preamble has fallen on deaf ears for the past five years and before that 226 years. It would not surprise me for the people of St. George to vote for responsible liberty now and leave it to future Baton Rouge citizens to admit to themselves that personal responsibility for personal liberty is not a curse.
 

Quora

https://www.quora.com/What-is-a-valuble-lesson-you-learned-too-late-in-life

I admit misapprehension of the word “oxymoron” and think it is never too late to learn a valuable lesson. Furthermore, I think the principle that it is never too late to reform is essential to life.

No matter how low a person’s offense may be, I would be the last fellow citizen to say it is too late for them to recognize the offense and reform, with some exceptions: for examples, malice murder and statutory treason.

https://www.quora.com/Do-you-believe-society-changes-based-on-what-s-marketed-and-why?

I think marketing is effective and have an example that has operated for 230 years so far and is prime for termination as fast as within two years if this message goes viral with approval.

Before September 17, 1787’s draft U.S. Constitution, major European documents on this continent made reference to a Christian God, some documents citing his son Jesus Christ. However, there were many definitions of gods, especially Christian gods, on the continent. Benjamin Franklin suggested religious allegiance through prayer in the early days of the constitutional convention, but the motion did not receive a second. The committee of forms, in the 51-word U.S. preamble, represented the consequence of all the delegates’ discussions as a document without allegiance to a god by a responsible people. In other words, the people have responsibility for liberty.

The U.S. preamble is neutral to gender, religion, ethnicity, wealth and other human inequalities. After a couple decades of study and discussion, I perceive the U.S. preamble propositions individual citizens to aid five coercible/forcible provisions---Union, Justice, Tranquility, defense and Welfare---so as to approve and encourage individuals to responsibly practice human liberty. In other words, responsible citizens accept the liberty each human has to develop civic integrity rather than nourish infidelities.

The U.S. preamble codifies that liberty is not in the catalogue of enforceable practices: Only the individual can practice liberty, so government's only option is to coerce or force the five provisions and urge responsible liberty as opposed to infidelity to self. In other words, responsible liberty requires self-discipline, the U.S. premble's proposition.

The U.S. preamble clearly, in my opinion, establishes civic, civil, and legal power by the people in their states to discipline themselves by managing the USA so as to approve of and encourage (bless) responsible liberty. Nine states ratified the U.S. preamble’s proposition on June 21, 1788. However, the Frist Congress, seated representing eleven states on March 4, 1789, feared approving and encouraging responsible liberty, so they imposed factional-American Protestantism in a partnership with Congress. Perhaps they also imagined representing themselves as divine. At the time, probably 99% of free inhabitants and 100% of the 4% who could vote subscribed to the Christian formula of fear: Either submit to Christianity or be ostracized in this country; moreover, in your afterdeath spend eternity in the fires of hell instead of enjoying refined gold.

Today, this fear formula is marketed despite the obvious: Christian believers have the human right to pursue the spirituality they choose but public imposition of their beliefs opposes responsible liberty. Consider for example, U.S. Rep. Cory Booker’s recent marketing of the phrase “civic grace.” Compare the second stanza of the beloved propaganda, “Amazing Grace.” The fear formula is expressed “Twas grace that taught My heart to fear And grace my Fears relieved.” I could sing that song at a friend’s request but only to honor my friend. If my opposition to fear drives a friend away, I accept that I am an ostracizer for now and wait for a better time.

The marketing of “freedom of religion” by the USA’s political regimes so far has bemused the U.S. preamble’s civic, civil, and legal power to approve and encourage individual, responsible liberty. Our generation has the power to amend the First Amendment to approve and encourage civic integrity leaving spiritual pursuits such as religion or none as an individual choice for adults.

I hope we delete freedom of religion from the First Amendment and approve and encourage civic, civil, and legal integrity under the U.S. preamble within a couple years.



Can you rephrase this? Are you saying that the United States Constitution should NOT exercise the freedom of religion?



No. I am saying the First Amendment is unconstitutional according to the U.S. preamble, which intends and offers civic, civil, and legal approval and encouragement of responsible liberty. To conform to the U.S. preamble, the First Amendment would be silent on religion and spirituality in order to approve of and encourage civic integrity. The First Amendment imposes colonial British civic psychology that the U.S. preamble forbids. Religion and spirituality are private pursuits for mature human beings. I am not willing to participate in a public forum to evaluate another citizen’s private pursuits and do not want to compromise mine. However, I do want to collaborate for responsible liberty.






https://www.quora.com/unanswered/What-reasonable-political-view-that-you-have-makes-people-unreasonably-angry?

The First Amendment to the Constitution for the United States must be amended so as to protect the individual citizen’s opportunity and duty to develop responsible liberty under the U.S. preamble. The U.S. preamble is neutral to religion, a business institution that exists on believers’ private wishes but causes public misery and loss.

This 1791 fundamental flaw in civic, civil, and legal self-discipline under the 1788 U.S. preamble must be reformed as soon as possible. Fellow citizens need only consider the current congressional nonsense (
https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/429895-house-approves-motion-condemning-anti-semitism) over anti-Semitism, indeed an egregious offense, but an extension of long-standing failure to approve and encourage responsible liberty and civic integrity under the U.S. preamble. The First Amendment is the major cause of that failure. 

https://www.quora.com/Is-is-true-that-freedom-is-not-given-but-must-be-demanded-from-the-people?

About 2500 years ago Pericles suggested, in my interpretation, that human beings have the individual and collective power to collaborate for equity under statutory justice. That’s a packed sentence, and the key words worthy of explanation include power, collaborate, equity, and justice. The U.S. Supreme Court building is adorned with “Equal justice under law,” which I do not appreciate at all. For example, I think the First Amendment should encourage each individual to develop civic integrity rather than civil religion.

About 2400 years ago Agathon said, in my interpretation, individuals who appreciate being human neither initiate nor tolerate harm to or from any person or god. For example, I think the First Amendment errs to allow citizens to speak without conformance to Agathon’s idea. That is, speech should be responsible and free.

The civic, civil, and legal powers granted the USA are plainly stated in the preamble to the Constitution for the USA, or the U.S. preamble. My paraphrase today (I continually improve my understanding by stating my paraphrase then listening to fellow citizens) follows:  We the civic people of the united states in order to develop individual discipline, civic integrity, justice, defense, and prosperity so as to perpetually preserve liberty, maintain statutory law for the USA. My 32 word interpretation of the U.S. preamble’s 51 words asserts that civic citizens use coercion/force for five provisions that encourage and approve human liberty. In other words, freedom-from oppression empowers the human practice of responsible liberty.

Study the actual preamble (which I would not change) and write your own paraphrase. Especially consider who can provide the civil freedom so you, an individual, may practice responsible liberty. If you like the results of the exercise, aid acceleration of an achievable better future.

https://www.quora.com/Do-you-believe-some-people-are-more-equal-than-others-What-makes-them-more-equal?

I view this question on the basis of ova. Of about 800 million U.S. ova per year, only 4 million become infants. Thus, 0.5 % of ova survive. Perhaps the survivors are more equal than the terminated ova. If we accept the ova view, the ova survivor view may be analogous for humans. That is, 99.5% of humans fail to develop their potential.

How might this be so?

It seems the human being is the most powerful living species. Every human has the individual power, the individual energy, and the individual authority (IPEA) to develop either infidelity or integrity to the-objective-truth. Most cultures teach their young to seek higher power---a government, a philosophy, or a god. Therefore IPEA never occurs to most people and few even care about the-objective-truth.

The-objective-truth exists and can only be discovered. However, most people are not satisfied to admit to themselves, “I do not know when they do not know.” Most people choose to believe something. Yet because IPEA is real and cannot be consigned, they have a nagging doubt in the belief. Therefore, there is a slight chance the believer will be motivated to discover and develop IPEA. If so, they may choose integrity rather than infidelity. (Some people use IPEA to develop crime unless their actual harm is discovered.) I often write that I do not believe in believing, yet I believe in believers’ chance for reform.

The more serious concern is that existing cultures I know of do not inculcate IPEA by encouraging newborns to develop responsible liberty. People who develop responsible liberty may collaborate for statutory justice, an impossible perfection yet a worthy goal. Without early coaching and encouragement, it is doubtful that an infant will discover and develop IPEA, much less choose to practice civic integrity. Civic integrity requires the person to understand the-objective-truth in every choice he or she makes.

The chance of two humans reaching their individual, ultimate human maturity is so slim I do not think it can be said that any two humans are equal.

https://www.quora.com/What-can-you-do-to-make-a-possitive-change-in-society-today?

The first liberty fellow citizens can take is to realize that associations/societies do not determine---may oppose---civic integrity. Even collaboration for responsible liberty can be misleading, for example, when neither party understands the-objective-truth. Under the-objective-truth, when neither party understands, they agree, “We do not know.” Every human being has the individual power, the individual energy, and the individual authority (IPEA) to develop either integrity or infidelity to the-objective-truth. Some people think crime pays and therefore use IPEA to perfect their scheme until actual harm comes to the attention of fellow citizens.

Some scholars rebuke the-objective-truth by insisting on The Truth or the objective truth or ultimate truth or the Almighty truth or absolute truth or some coercion/force for dominant opinion. Fear is their most powerful tool, and they do not accept that the human being is too psychologically powerful to ultimately compromise or subjugate to fear. And the person who accepts his or her IPEA is intolerant of tolerance from purveyors of fear.

Civic citizens encourage each other to use IPEA to develop responsible liberty. Criminals and other dissidents to statutory justice resist the encouragement for reasons they may or may not understand, but often merely to nourish banal habits, sometimes abusing other humans.

Many individuals are persuaded to be dissident by societies who oppose justice. Individuals excuse self-defeating habits by attempting to consign IPEA to the errant society, even though they perceive it won’t work. I think the human being is so psychologically powerful that the individual knows when he or she is subjugating or compromising for a society. Persons in voluntary enslavement perceive their denial of IPEA.

About 2,500 years ago, Pericles suggested that humans may enjoy equity by collaborating for statutory justice, a perfection. In the meantime, they may make the most of a worthy cause by collaborating on statutory law. This interpretation of Pericles’ ideas does not benefit societies who oppose human, responsible liberty.

In the USA, the preamble to the Constitution for the USA offers the agreement to practice civic, civil, and legal statutory law while pursuing statutory justice. The discovery of statutory justice comes from fidelity to the-objective truth. Wonderfully, fellow citizens can prefer not to contribute to responsible liberty, which is necessary since statutory justice is a continuing discovery. If dissidents do not observe statutory law, they may encounter civic, civil, or legal encouragement to reform. Fortunate are the dissidents who reform early.

The U.S. preamble’s proposition for responsible liberty under statutory justice was offered only 231 yeas ago and so far has been repressed by political regimes and neglected by most people.

Improving these ideas and practicing the improvements can help individuals collaborate for an achievable better future here and among humankind.



Phil Beaver does not “know.” He trusts in and is committed to the-objective-truth which can only be discovered. Conventional wisdom has truth founded on reason, but it obviously does not work.

Phil is agent for A Civic People of the United States, a Louisiana, education non-profit corporation. See online at promotethepreamble.blogspot.com, and consider essays from the latest and going back as far as you like.

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