Friday, December 15, 2017

December 15, 2017

Phil Beaver seeks to collaborate on the-objective-truth, which can only be discovered. The comment box below invites readers to write.
Note 1:  I often dash words in phrases in order to express and preserve an idea. For example, frank-objectivity represents the idea of candidly expressing the-objective-truth despite possible error.
 Note 2: It is important to note "civic" refers to citizens who collaborate for the people more than for the city.
A personal paraphrase of the June 21, 1788 preamble:  We the civic citizens of nine of the thirteen United States commit-to and trust-in the purpose and goals stated herein --- integrity, justice, collaboration, defense, prosperity, liberty, and perpetuity --- and to cultivate limited services by the USA. Composing their own paraphrase, citizens may consider the actual preamble and perceive whether they are willing or dissident toward its principles.   

Our Views (theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/opinion/our_views/article_c4d4e928-deb4-11e7-aa61-bfcc5542de67.html)

Writers for The Advocate represent themselves as lower bait-switch-players than one can imagine---from thieving lawyers to fraudulent used car salesmen to pedophile priests.

Whoever wrote that last paragraph perceived he or she was going too far and should be fired for embarrassing readers who collaborate for responsible freedom.

Our Views Dec 13 (theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/opinion/our_views/article_8e953af2-e021-11e7-b7a0-1310e942f15b.html)

Baton Rouge From My View The problem is that most Christians neither understand Jesus nor attest to their personal afterdeath that Jesus promised to believers. Consider John 6:39 NIV, "And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day."
 
Jesus, being God, may be trusted.
  
However, I do not believe in believing, especially writers like John and people who claim they know how to interpret John. The same is true for all the Bible writers and interpreters. They cannot be trusted.
  
There is no excuse for Christians preventing other citizens from pursuing responsible civic freedom, and that includes the faction of Christians who practice responsible freedom. No religious doctrine should prevent responsible civic freedom.
 
I hope we are at the erroneously imposed American-Christian nadir and are beginning the ascent to civic morality and peace.

To Baton Rouge From My View again:

You stated, "Christians . . . will never know for sure if they will have a favorable afterdeath." I think you are erroneously interpreting the Bible as well as your own writing. That is, the Christian person may enjoy awareness during the afterdeath.

Do you suggest that John 6:39 NIV, "And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day," comes from the son of God, not God? If so, are you interpreting that Jesus is not reliable; or that the Jesus-believer is not reliable?

Now you bring commandments into the collaboration for the-objective-truth. How about Exodus 20:7, "You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name."
  
Perhaps when one citizen expresses a personal opinion and attributes it to God, they have misinterpreted Exodus 20:7---claiming their opinion is God or speaks for God.

Furthermore, the act of trying to establish the higher opinion by reference to God rather than the-objective-truth seems an offense against civic morality. To make it worse, attempting to impose religious doctrine on a citizen who has not adopted that religion seems an offence against that person's both person and chosen religious society and seems thus socially immoral. If the USA has separation of church and state, it seems also civilly immoral.
 
Six thousand years of cultural evolution has influenced people to seek authority. Rose Wilder Lane's book, "The Discovery of Freedom," asserts, in my interpretation, that evolution informs humankind that only one species---the human species---has the physical and psychological power to establish responsible freedom: Civic justice comes only from people and only those who collaborate for responsible freedom. The others are dissidents to justice.

The moment a civic citizen understands the personal opportunity to collaborate for responsible freedom, acceptance that civic justice does not involve hopes for the hereafter may invoke the actual-reality that since they would not compromise their personal God, other citizens would not compromise their personal Gods: Civic citizens do not question each other’s personal God.

However, perhaps dissident citizens bring their God’s doctrines into public collaborations.
 
Dissidents attempt to dominate opinion; dissidents attempt to force compromise; just citizens collaborate for civic peace using the-objective-truth.
 
Christians may choose to be civic citizens---may accept the responsibility to establish freedom, including personal confidence in their afterdeath.

It seems to me only a sociopath or near kin would attempt to impose their vision of another person’s afterdeath. Perhaps fear of private responsibility for personal freedom motivates such irresponsibility.

To Baton Rouge From My View again:
  
Your arrogance is typically exclusive-Christian.

You responded to my comment on afterdeath, “Christians (or other religious folks) will never know for sure if they will have a favorable afterdeath. That final decision is up to God.”

I tacitly claimed that if I was a Christian I would trust, John 6:39 NIV, attributed to Jesus "And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day."

You responded, “Jesus is the son of God” without clarity and brought in “thou shalt not.”
I asked you if John 6:39, coming from the son of God, is unreliable. Note that John 6:39 is also a claim about God by the son of God. Also, I stated that claiming to speak for God is not civically moral.

Now you increase your folly by attempting to escape---tacitly claiming my knowledge of the Bible suggests that I have not read the “book that covers almost everything related to Christian beliefs called the Catechism.” As though I have not read it, debated it with none other than Stanely Joseph Ott, attended Manresa silent retreat with Edward Joseph Ramagosa and far more work to understand.

It seems to me that you are as weak in the knowledge of the Catechism and the Holy Bible as anyone I ever met. Face it: The days of Christian reliability as a basis for civic collaboration are over. Finished.

It is time for each Christian to consider embracing the personal, human responsibility for civic freedom; civic peace; civic justice---without doubting favorable afterdeath for Jesus’ believers.
  
Christianity in private for believers is not under attack: people who are willing to face their personal, human responsibility for freedom are joyous to include willing Christians. In responsible freedom, every religious institution is responsibly free and flourishes or not depending on the needs and wants of believers.

Today’s thought, G.E. Dean (Exodus 20:17 CJB)
Do not covet your neighbor's house; do not covet your neighbor's wife, his male or female slave, his ox, his donkey or anything that belongs to your neighbor.

Dean says, “Envy and greed are both a sin.”

“Sin” is an erroneous substitute for infidelity to the-objective-truth. It is part of the priestly construct by which some people avoid the responsibility to establish a culture of mutual freedom: some people attribute their responsibility to the church or government. The priest-politician-partnership picks the people’s pockets but don’t fulfill the responsibility. Justice may only come from civic people.  
      
Columns. (The fiction/non-fiction comments gallery for readers)
  
Liberal democracy on the run (E.J. Dionne) (sltrib.com/opinion/commentary/2017/12/11/ej-dionne-our-institutional-crisis-is-upon-us/)

It is expensive to read a column that starts with a fallacious phrase like “our democratic republic” (under chaos). The USA is a representative republic under the rule of statutory law.

Dionne does a masterful job of reporting realities as falsehoods. The fact is most Americans want to reverse the regression that has occurred during the past five decades under the evil of collective democracy.

Other forums 

quora.com/What-is-a-just-society  
Evolution informed humankind that each human has the potential to develop fidelity to the-objective-truth. In other words, each person has the possibility to develop responsible freedom. Call this practice civic morality rather than social morality, where “civic” refers to collaborative public behavior such that both parties receive their respective comprehensive safety and security. For example, a customer receives the desired product or service at price and quality that both parties appreciate.

For many reasons, some people are dissidents to responsible freedom. Dissidents are a negative faction of social morality. Their behavior may need constraint, and their person may need to be incarcerated. Therefore, a civic people must develop statutory laws and law enforcement that conform to the-objective-truth rather than some arbitrary opinion or doctrine. For example, a civic people do not murder, so that others may live, rather than to observe some doctrine. In a civic culture, dissidents may, by personal experience and observation of other citizens, develop understanding and reform to responsible freedom.

When a people develop a culture that accommodates both a civic people and dissidents to develop responsibility for freedom, it has justice, or is a just society.

facebook.com/brian.schlindwein.7/posts/10155971763339140?from_close_friend=1&notif_id=1513343574755913&notif_t=close_friend_activity

I agree with the Goodes (thank you) and about this photograph in particular. 

I don’t know about the physical glow around the tree, but the psychological glow that envelops each person is the potential energy of one human being. Of all the species, the human being is the only one that controls his or her energy---may decide to take responsible action. Each person has potential to take responsibility for personal, civic freedom.

No matter what hardships come, the human has control of his or her energy and can act for his or her person and fidelity. That glow around the tree reminds me of the glow of human responsible freedom.

My sister, Dona Bean (d. September 20, 2017) may be saying, “And Phil, that glow is God, cheering the person on.” 

I learned to respond, “Maybe so,” rather than, “Are you sure?” 

Either way, she’d happily respond, “You’re such a hoot!”

Thank you, Brian.

quora.com/How-can-I-teach-my-toddler-gender-equality-this-early

Contrary to common parenting, I do not think children should ever be taught falsehoods or to think the parents believe a falsehood.

I have no idea on what basis either human equality or gender equality can be claimed, beyond sharing the personal, human responsibility to establish freedom. Only the human individual has both the physical and psychological power to establish responsible freedom. A majority of humans accepting this possibility could establish a civic culture.

Start with a scaled model of an ovum and a scaled model of a spermatozoon. Let him or her play with the models and get accustomed to the fact that they are very different but each a distinct cell.

At some time in the future, illustrate how complex the ovum is in cross section. Then store the spermatozoon and suggest that it joined with the ovum to make a single cell.

Later, give a model of a splitting cell.

Perhaps at this point, relate either the ovum or the spermatozoon with your spouse.
In time, teach that you and your spouse were bonded in mutual appreciation and decided to share that bond---to appreciate the person they could conceive, gestate, deliver, and coach from feral infant to young adult with the understanding and intent to take responsibility for personal freedom.

As the toddler matures, meet each question with a collaborative google search for the related facts and a response that can be traced to physics, where physics is mass, energy and space-time rather than the study of physics. When necessary, follow evolution from physics so as to properly refer to its progeny—-the species, human biology, psychology, ethics, religion, etc.

When the person you appreciate (toddler you appreciate) asks questions for which you three cannot find answers, start with “I do not know and did not find a reliable reference, but I think . . . [whatever you think]. Perhaps the answer to the question will be discovered by your generation—-you, in particular.”

In this response, I am describing a civic family, where “civic” indicates fidelity in human connections. The principle of fidelity—-absolute reliability—-extends from the family to all public connections, including dissidents to public integrity.

In this civic relationship there are two realities: a civic person never lies so that he or she may communicate and he or she does not expect the appreciated person to accept expressions and google-search-results. The appreciated person has the physical and psychological power to establish responsible freedom at the leading edge of civic morality—-he or she has the power to manage a time you and your spouse cannot imagine. Your limitations must not limit your appreciated one’s execution of the duty to advance responsible freedom during his or her adulthood and your grandchildren’s youth.

These ideas do not describe a utopia. A civic people are aware of dissidents, some of whom are criminal, evil, and worse. However, the civic culture knows it is developing justice—-statutory laws and law enforcement that conforms to the-objective-truth rather than dominant opinion.

This is not an expected response, because 6000 years of cultural evolution has conditioned most people to look to an authority rather than accept the human responsibility for freedom. Many people think past cultural inculcation and embrace the responsibility for freedom. That’s the civic culture I want to help establish.

I hope you will comment so as to improve my expressions and correct the errors or oversights.


Phil Beaver does not “know” the-indisputable-facts, or actual-reality. He trusts and is committed to the-objective-truth of which most is undiscovered and some is understood. He is agent for A Civic People of the United States, a Louisiana, education non-profit corporation. See online at promotethepreamble.blogspot.com.

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