Phil Beaver seeks to collaborate on the-objective-truth,
which can only be discovered. The comment box below invites readers to write.
Note 1: I often dash
words in phrases in order to express and preserve an idea. For example, frank-objectivity
represents the idea of candidly expressing the-objective-truth despite possible
error. Note 2: It is important to note "civic" refers to citizens who collaborate for the people more than for the city.
A personal paraphrase
of the June 21, 1788 preamble: We the civic citizens of nine of the
thirteen United States commit-to and trust-in the purpose and goals stated
herein --- integrity, justice, collaboration, defense, prosperity, liberty, and
perpetuity --- and to cultivate limited services by the USA. Composing
their own paraphrase, citizens may consider the actual preamble and perceive
whether they are willing or dissident toward its principles.
It's a wonderful, developing opportunity.
I would seek a school that would coach my children: You are a person; this is your life and you have both the physical power and the psychological power to develop responsible freedom during your lifetime. Also, it would have the curriculum to offer my children the opportunity to learn the basic knowledge---the understanding and intent to enter young adulthood with the personal authority to live a complete life in collaboration to discover and establish public justice. Any hopes for favorable afterdeath or other hereafter would remain a concern for the children to discover or not, on their own.
I wonder if
such a school exists.
Your confusion derives from your personal arrogance
when you attempt to read.
I wrote, “It is alright for Christians to know they will have a favorable afterdeath. However, it is immoral for them to try impose on the people of the USA the fear of human, responsible civic freedom---in other words, justice.”
I wrote, “It is alright for Christians to know they will have a favorable afterdeath. However, it is immoral for them to try impose on the people of the USA the fear of human, responsible civic freedom---in other words, justice.”
Your posts fail to acknowledge either “alright for
Christians to know” or “civic freedom---in other words, justice.” Later you
write, “. . . we still can not figure out what your point really even is here.”
Face it, there’s nothing for your crowd to “figure
out.” Just read, without y’all’s arrogance, what I wrote. My concluding
statement is, “I wish every Christian success during their afterdeath but want
them to collaborate during life to discover civic justice rather than conflict
for dominant opinion.”
Your arrogance in the face of your failure to “defend
the faith” is to retreat to your personal authority---the Catholic priests.
However, I respond to you that they also retreat, not from Phil Beaver and the
consequences of EBRP library meetings, but from the-objective-truth.
Humankind has progressed in the 1700 years that Bible
doctrine has remained stagnant. Ending 2017 and progressing into 2018, the awareness
that humankind has the physical and psychological power---and therefore the
responsibility, going forward, the people will be able to collaborate for civic
freedom so that each person may pursue the happiness they perceive rather than
what some religious or government institution deems best for the person.
You state, “The Bible really does not suggest to
prevent responsible civic freedom. The word "responsible" is
important in that statement.” (As though you are informing me about my
previous statement.)
I respond, “Six thousand years of cultural evolution
has influenced people to seek authority. Rose Wilder Lane's book, "The
Discovery of Freedom," asserts, in my interpretation, that evolution
informs humankind that only one species---the human species---has the physical
and psychological power to establish responsible freedom: Civic justice comes
only from people and only those who collaborate for responsible freedom. The
others are dissidents to justice.”
Then you pretend, “All this talk of civic
collaboration and civic this and civic that has no real meaning and it is
doubtful anyone even understands what you are really trying to say here. Is
civic freedom different than freedom? Is civic peace different than peace? Is civic justice different than
justice? It sounds like "civic" is the only concept you want to talk
about here.”
You are so arrogant that you tacitly
pretend that freedom to kill is civic freedom; a sociopath’s personal peace is
civic peace; a terrorist’s justice is civic justice. I
suppose you wish to force “civic”--- meaning voluntary mutual justice in public
connections rather than cooperation or subjugation to a government or religious
institution’s doctrine---into a Bible idea. Consider the Bible’s passages that
condone the slave-master relationship in public connections. I do not care to
revise the Bible, but I do want to put to rest its citation in civic debate.
The Bible is not civically moral, as 1700 years of history have shown, and the Bible’s
conflicts with the-objective-truth were never more obvious then in 2017.
In that statement I do not claim that a Christian
cannot achieve salvation by reading the Bible. However, the Christian with a
secure hereafter yet may choose to collaborate for justice during his or her
lifetime. (By now, you should realize that “justice” is civic justice, rather
than either errant civil justice or impertinent religious justice.)
So far, you divide yourself from collaboration for
responsible liberty by personal arrogance toward justice. You are not alone as
a dissident; nor am I as a civic citizen. A civic citizen works for justice
during his or her entire life and is able to recognize other civic citizens by
their refusal to lie---simply because they want to communicate.
You write, “Real arrogance and folly is believing that
you are above the word of God, and also when you think that people who do
believe in God and Jesus Christ are arrogant.”
There you go, pretending again. You are unable to
assimilate the statement I quoted at the beginning of this post: I hope a Christian’s knowledge of the
hereafter is so, but in the meantime, I do not accept the imposition of those
hopes in the public arena. Together, you and I have shown that the most adamant
Christian voice in this forum must retreat to the Church when confronted with
the hypocrisy of personal Bible interpretation. At stake here is not God, but
the Bible as the word of God: gleaning the word of God from the Bible is as
difficult as a Camel passing through the eye of the needle.
Then you kick in propaganda: “The people who started
the USA believed in God and in the laws of Nature. The real problem with the
USA today is that people are getting away from both God and from Mother Nature,
which in time will lead to the destruction of the USA.”
You hide the fact that “Nature and Nature’s God” is
1776 deism rather than Christianity. The 1787 draft Constitution for the USA
made such references obsolete. The signers, only 2/3 of the delegates provide
(our generation) the opportunity to adopt human responsible freedom. And 2/3 of
delegates to 2/3 of the state constitutional conventions approved the defining
sentence, the preamble, and the articles that follow it, establishing the USA
on June 21, 1788. Four dissenting states then had the opportunity to join the
USA. One did, and the USA began operation with ten states on March 4, 1789.
Arrogantly, the First Congress re-established the English Church tradition that
legislators are ordained by God by hiring Congressional chaplains at the people’s
expense. But the congressional chaplains were factional-Protestants to avoid Church
of England dominance. The people have suffered American theism ever since. However,
the reform, after 228 years of lost opportunity, is underway. The era of civic
morality or justice has arrived. The people may and can collaborate to discover
the-objective-truth.
I do not know the-objective-truth. However,
collaboration for its discovery may lead to justice in only a few years. Bible
interpretation will forever divide believers, but its civic functionality has
ended. From perhaps 1996 on, civic citizens are beginning to collaborate for
human, responsible freedom.
Christians may choose to get on board.
Today’s thought,
G.E. Dean (Psalms 28:7 CJB)
“Adonai is
my strength and shield; in him my heart trusted, and I have been helped. Therefore my heart is filled with joy, and I will sing praises to him. Adonai is
strength for [his people], a stronghold of salvation to his anointed. Save your
people! Bless your heritage! Shepherd them, and carry them forever!”
Dean says, “Trust God. You will be glad you did.”
The Bible fails trust and commitment, but
the-objective-truth prevails. Whether there is a controller or not has yet to
be discovered. Therefore, it is alright for a person to know he or she will be
saved in the afterdeath, but during life, justice comes only from civic people
rather than government or religious institutions such as Bible interpretors.
Columns. (The
fiction/non-fiction comments gallery for readers)
Unintelligence (Byron York)
(washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-former-top-spy-rethinks-maybe-we-shouldnt-have-attacked-a-new-president/article/2643208)
Michael Morell’s
candid admission that he exercised the folly of politics compromise his
intelligence professionalism is disheartening for civic citizens---those who
collaborate for justice and for the rule of statutory law rather than dominant
party. It is also disheartening that so many so called “departmental professionals”
are actually liberal democrats and socialists.
Michael Morell,
Michael Hayden, and Michael Vickers seem to be like James Comey---nanny state
products who honestly never encountered integrity.
I appreciate
York’s reporting and focus.
Abuse task force (theadvocate.com/acadiana/news/politics/article_9072fc30-e204-11e7-b643-af373eb26e89.html)
Under the duty
described as “Research and identify the specific conduct that should be
prohibited by sexual harassment and discrimination policies,” I hope the
committee will examine leading edge civic morality such as considerations
developed in EBRP library meetings and other discussions since 2014:
Evolution
informs humankind that the human species, emerging over the past 3 million
years is the only species known to have the physical and psychological power to
take the responsibility to establish and maintain freedom through statutory
justice.
Statutory
justice is necessary only because the world is not a utopia, and it seems there
will always be dissidents to civic peace, where “civic” refers to mutually just
connections between individuals and groups more than conformity to a
municipality or a doctrine.
While
maintaining the records of discovery of civic morality as statutory justice is
a government function, the responsibility for personal responsible freedom is
private. Every citizen is responsible for his or her personal freedom.
History
shows that fidelity empowers private development of personal freedom. Fidelity
by the newborn is within the immediate family. Soon, the child may acquire
fidelity to the-objective-truth, fidelity to self, and fidelity to loved ones,
usually the family. With more knowledge and with coaching to develop, the child
may develop fidelity to extended family and friends, the people (nation), the
world, and the universe. With successful development, the young adult has the
understanding and intent to live a full life in the human responsibility for
civic freedom.
If the
person also develops an expectation for his or her afterdeath, that commitment
is maintained in privacy, because arbitrary breech of the responsibility for
civic freedom is infidelity.
A human
starts as an ovum that is generated in a woman’s body. The ovum has a small
chance, perhaps 1%, to be activated by a man’s spermatozoon to form a
single-celled conception. That single cell has perhaps 6% chance of success in
cell division, implantation, gestation, delivery, and neo-natal survival. The transition
from newborn to young adult with understanding and intent to live a full human
life is an amazing feat.
An authentic
woman understands that during her fertile years she may generate some 400
viable ova. In responsible freedom, she understands that any conception will
need her physical and psychological nourishment. Thus, she perceives
collaborative association with her viable ova. She envisions that each of her
ova could become an appreciated person, and that part of her personal
appreciation is to make certain the ova are protected from wanton men.
Therefore, the friendships she develops are with responsible men. The
confidences she develops are with proven men. The intimacies she entertains are
with committed men. The bond she forms is with the authentic man of her life.
This fantastic progression leads to monogamy for life, the basis of fidelity.
With the
above considerations, the committee considers abuse in the work place a
dissident human behavior. Any indication that an employee is not aware of the
human obligations to ova leads to training in the human responsibility for
freedom, including human reproduction processes and statistics of ova survival.
It is preposterous for a chemical engineer to author a
legitimate guideline to the-objective-truth about abuse, whether a consequence
of past library meetings or not. However, the above list of concerns could
serve as a recipe for qualified professionals in the right fields to consult
for the committee. It’s up to the committee to call in such experts.
Look at it this way: Gov. Edwards merely screamed “I have a
problem,” and outlined a task. It’s up to the people assigned to the task to
take responsibility for human freedom in regards to their task force.
Phil Beaver does not “know”
the-indisputable-facts, or actual-reality. He trusts and is committed to the-objective-truth
of which most is undiscovered and some is understood. He is agent for A Civic
People of the United States, a Louisiana, education non-profit corporation. See
online at promotethepreamble.blogspot.com.
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